No Clean Feed - Stop Internet Censorship in Australia

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Internet filtering, censorship and stupidity of many varieties

Last Friday night in a bar1 after a couple of Mojitos. A friend and I got to debating the perils of allowing this new-fangled internet to continue to grow out of control and exist, largely uncensored. I can't believe this debate still needs to be had. Our debate was prompted by news of teenagers in Hyde Park doing something which started out fun and ended up ruined by some participants who were being stupid, really stupid, and the suggestion by some in the media that this was internet's - or more specifically - Facebook's fault2. In the end, there were two prongs to our discussion. The first was about content filtering or censorship and the second was about the internet as an enabler of bad behaviour by groups of people in the real world. The main points of difference related to:

I find the idea that Facebook (or Myspace, or web hosts4, or web chat, or the internet, or the telephone, or <insert new technology of the day here>) should be held in anyway responsible for the bad behavior of its users simply unbelieveable. It seem to me that a good analogy for such a situation would be holding a building's owner responsible for the independent actions - say, selling drugs or some other bad stuff - of their tentants.  Landlords do not, as far as I'm aware, have any responsibility to monitor the activities of their tenants, and in just the same way, web hosts - the internet's landlords - should have no responsibility to monitor the activities of their tenants, the site owners/operators.

It is, of course, possible that a landlord, of their own accord or at the request of some authority, spots something they are suspicious of, or know to be bad. If there was a compelling reason to report this suspected bad behaviour or some obligation to provide further information about the suspected perpetrators which they refused or neglected to do, then there may be some cause to hold the landlord to account for that. But not because they've simply rented some space to someone who turned out to be the kind of person who would fail at their run on the egg-dicator5 should landlords be held responsible.

Censoring the internet on a large scale at some central point(s) is increadibly hard, and is generally a really bad idea. I don't think there's much disagreement that Chinas continued crippling of the internet is a bad thing. Why exactly the Australian Government6 (or any government for that matter) persists in making attempts to censor or filter the internet, despite clear evidence that it doesn't work technically and no evidence that it does work as a tool for desireable7 social change is beyond me.

And worse than that, Stephen Conroy, the Communications Minister seems to be following in the steps of the previous, horribly technically ignorant Minister, Helen Coonan. As pointed out by tigtog at Hoyden About Town Senator Conroy has completely misrepresented a recent report into proposed ISP level internet filtering [PDF 2.8MB] representing it as 'encouraging'. Get a more realistic analysis of the report courtesy of Crikey - Internet filters a success if success = failure.

It turns out this post has an unfortunate lack of focus, but I just had to get that off my chest.

  1. The best time and place for a debate. []
  2. The implication being, of course, that any similar 'social networking' style site could be substituted. []
  3. The term 'bad' used throughout this post is obviously ridiculously subjective. Lets assume, for the sake of argument that something bad is that which will almost certainly result in personal harm (psychological or physical) to someone somewhere. []
  4. As opposed to site owners/operators. []
  5. In the golden goose room, what is the name of the device that tells the good eggs from the bad eggs? []
  6. Both the previous Liberal Government and the current Labor Governement. []
  7. Desirable by who anyway? []

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In China, murder is a crime. You get executed for it. Does that mean if retain criminal status for murder but today abolish execution, that we either: 1. Execute everybody for it now because China does, or 2. Stop proscecuting murdereres because China executes them???

Yep, very slly question. Yet ever again I read that Australia should not have ANY censorship applied to the Internet, because a group of bone-head, neanderthal meglomaniac despots in China have gone completely overboard with it?

Where is the balance in this discussion folks, that you all seem to want to have in the handling of the Internet usage? What about quoting the fair, reasonable and well planned checks and balances that oher countries are applying to Internet usage so that it can continue to grow and be the boon it should be for everyone??

You roll out in front of me the perfect Internet system of any kind, especially the perfect Internet security system of any kind, and I will then agree with you that Internet censorship have have the same hazy and lofty standards applied... NOTHING in this technology is perfect, and it is a fool's dream to demand that of any Internet related technology before you would accept it. You would have to turn it off today.

And I do know folks, I have been working with Internet security since 1995...

This is all about IMPROVEMENT of conditions, not idiotic demands for perfection. This blog alone could be hacked in 2 minutes by good operators, your bank accts are not too far behind... (takes longer to get at those)

Your house is more insecure than that...

Let's put some REAL and basic protections in place to regulate a LARGE PORTION of the unsuitable materials and the ILLEGAL STUFF, just like we do in the rest of society in FREE COUNTRIES.

Sheesh, what is so dang hard about that? The technology is available today, and millions of organisations globally use it today. They have neither gone broke or lost their Internet usage...

Comment by Mike the Observer on August 7th, 2008 at 9:06 am.

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Mike,

You're right, China is a bad example to use here because they go beyond anything which could even be debated as reasonable in probably all western democracies. However, once you get on the honest to goodness censorship path, my feeling is that it gets steep and slippery.

It's not made explicit in the post, but if you read it again you'll note that I don't advocate doing nothing about illegal activity on the internet. In fact, I think internet filtering and censorship does have its place, but it should not be compulsorily performed at a central point (i.e. by the Government or by ISPs on behalf of the government).

More than that, it's definitely important to have mechanisms in place to allow authorities to easily investigate illegal activity being assisted by the internet. For example, the incident I mentioned in Hyde Park; while Facebook (or whatever technology) might have been used to organise some physical world illegal activity, they shouldn't be held accountable for that. However, there are very good reasons why the police should have the ability to access records of the system which are relevant to the organisation of illegal activities. This would be no different to the current situation with the telephone. A technology, that when first introduced, made the organisation of illegal activity much easier, and opened up new kinds of illegal activity (phone scams still aren't uncommon). Just as the internet shouldn't be, interactions we have over the telephone aren't censored, however the authorities can access our records should we choose to use the telephone for bad purposes.

I hope that clarifies my thoughts.

Comment by Simon on August 7th, 2008 at 6:34 pm.

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